EroticaVine Topics: Is There Such a Thing as Bisexuality?

i AM bi !!! and i am...greedy, hahaha. sex is good...with either sex, so why not have what you want ??? we also have to deal with not being excepted by either gay or straight worlds.

i have been disparaged by gay folks because i DO like women. and, well, the straights just hate your ass (what ass???) regardless !!!

luv,

ron

I've seen at some point various research that has adequately convinced me that psychological sexuality is NOT an all-or-nothing male or female event.

While in most cases it is far enough one way or the other than it is easy to decide which gender is "between the ears", it is clear to me that in a low but persistent number of cases it can get close enough to the "center" that it would be hard to absolutely categorize the psychology as either male or female.

It is therefore reasonable to believe - in my own opinion - that there are a a few humans out there that are genuinely "attracted" to both gender looks (genetically this is called a "phenotype") and not exclusively to what either looks like a female or a male.

I think it might be disconcerting at times for some people to find out that the person they are attracted to is themselves attracted to both genders...as that just screws up "keeping a watch out for interlopers" as everyone, and not just one gender, is a potential competitor.

I don't see why - though - a bisexual person can't be just a faithful to a partner than either a male or female gender person could be. I've never seen any data which suggests that fidelity and/or faithfulness is a function of psychogender.

Most men I know don't really care if they are "with" a female that has lesbian interests too, just so they don't "fall in love" with their lesbian partner and leave them for the "other woman". Really, the female capacity for sexual pleasure is so much greater than the males is (at one time...) that if the female has 10 or 15 orgasms outside of heterosexual intercourse, it's almost a relief as she is at that time just as tuckered out as the male is, and everyone is satiated and happy. Sexual aid, lesbian partner, who cares...just so the marital bond remains intact. At least some people feel like this...as there are many relationships with bisexual partners on one side that are "working".

if there isn't i have seen some pretty good acting.....oh for the younger days....bad maddad

I definitely think that bisexuality is real. I believe that most people choose not to act on it, but it is still there in fantasy land. Most people try to live up to the norms in society, unless they are way gay or way straight. I would wager that, just like politics, there are about 1/3 of the people that fall somewhere in the middle--even though they would never admit it--until they meet the right person to bring them to it.

I'm bi.. so here's my take on it.

Yes it exists.. if it doesn't I"m in trouble! LOL However, I think some people only do it as a fad. Unfortunately like ron c. baker sr. says, you do tend to get a lot of hatred from both sides. Straights think you're just "experimenting" and the gay/lesbian side thinks you're just "pretending". Not all mind you, but there are a lot of them out there on both sides that feel this way. Personally I'm one of the 50/50 types. I don't really have a preference. I am however married to a man. I'm with him and no one else.. being with another, even another female would be cheating unless maybe we were both with her cheating.. then I"m hoping it cancels out! LOL

I tend to think that bisexuality is the ability to remain open minded about finding a good mate. They are not limited by gender or even sexuality when it comes to compatibility. There is something to be said for that. Perhaps the bisexual person has a greater capacity to love and find connections?

I will admit to thinking at one time that bisexuals were simply confused or over sexed. In my head it did not make sense to like both sexes in the same way.

I would define bisexuality as enjoying sex with either men or women. How can you say that doesn't exists? Do you mean something else?

Well, here is my personal opinion. Sexuality is sexuality. It really has nothing to do with gender but rather the feelings, sensations, and the ulitumate climax (orgasm). Pre-pubescent children, when left to their own devices and not closely supervised by an adult who brings their own notions about sexuality to bear, often fondle and play with each other with little or no inhibitions or gender specific selection. However the on-set of puberty brings about the typical changes in the body and the hormonal balance which then causes children to question their sexuality as it relates to gender. That is when the social norm of heterosexuality becomes imprinted on them. Now, that being said, there is enough research that indicates that some are born with a certain pre-determination toward same sex preference. However the majority of us are simply socially conditioned to be heterosexual and gradually give up the open attitudes that we had as children.

Those born with a homosexual predilection are then repressed because of the social pressures while the rest of us are conditioned to be exclusively heterosexual. Through the reproductive years (puberty until about 45 or 50 years of age) such social conditioning remains pretty much set in our minds. However in later years, post reproductive, these attitudes begin to relax a bit and we find many who then willingly experiment much as they did when they were pre-pubescent. Though the social pressures still exist, the tendency in older people is to simply care less what others may think about their sexual choices. This is also about the time that the desire for some sexual diversity comes into play. People in their 40s and 50s tend to be more inclined to engage in open relationships, participate in mate swapping activities, and actively participate in swing clubs. In a sense, they revert to the innocence of their childhood and the goal is simply personal enjoyment and satisfaction.

Another factor is simply availability. Take men in prison for example. They may engage in all manner of homosexual activities but once released back into the general population they typically revert to heterosexual behavior. The same can be said of people who live in very remote and secluded places. They have been known to even engage in beastiality simply as a diversion from typical masturbatory practices. As I said in the beginning, sexuality is sexuality. The ultimate goal of sex is pleasure and the gratification of the orgasm.

Both men and women have utilized 'substitues' for sexual partners since the dawn of recorded history. The difference comes when one is chosing a mate for reproductive purposes. This, obviously, requires a standard heterosexual union in order to unite the male sperm with the female egg. Therefore, normal heterosexuals and even some who are genetically homosexuals will select a mate of the appropriate gender for that purpose. Since Mother Nature has essentially blurred our sexual identities from birth, it is only when social values and mores are inflicted upon us that we must conform or be ostracized by the rest in our social group. Therefore, we are all essentially bi-sexual unless we have the genetic markers for definite homosexuality.

Now, the question of why society seems more accepting of female/female relationships I think stems from the fact that women are regarded more as nurturers and care givers as well as the birth givers in our world. They are consistantly more affectionate in every way with each other as well as with select males of our species. It is only when they exclude the male members and become exclusively lesbian that society generally spurns them.

Regarding the question of the existence of bi-sexuality I tend to largely agree with Division by Zero. Yes it does exist but I go one step further and say that it exists in us all except for those who are predisposed to exclusive homosexuality by genetics. The males in our world generally have the most difficult time accepting this concept because, here again, the males view sexual activity as an act of dominance. Thus in a male/male relationship one or the other must play the submissive roll and this again is something that we are conditioned against from childhood. Women, on the other hand, are conditioned to be submissive to a selected male for the purpose of procreation.

Had the concepts of the sexual revolution of the 70s been completely successful and become universally accepted in our society, the question of who has sex with who would be about as relevant as whether you prefer Gucci or Prada. If you like it and it feels good wear it, or if you like em and they feel good do em. Sex is ultimately a gift from Mother Nature to insure the preservation of our species. The fact that our social constraints have villified and demonized its practice for any other purpose is simply ludicrous and generally unhealthy for us both physically and emotionally. But, as I said, that is just my opinion along with a few pretty smart scientists and psychologists.

Hey Div I have issued a 'friend request' to you. Don't know if you have just missed it or are perhaps ignoring me. LOL I would understand either way because I can be a bit weird sometimes. HEH HEH HEH HEH However in following some of your posts and comments we seem to share some similar attitudes. Would love to have ya as a friend.

Thanks for reinstating me as a member on EroticaVine also. I enjoy posting there but find it interesting that there is so little interest in such material. dkaz made an interesting point. She said that after visiting other sites and posts and making various comments, she simply isn't in the mood for erotica. Hmmmm. Odd that we should allow ourselves to become so emotionally upset by other issues that we cannot take a few minutes for some personal pleasure. For me, that is sort of a personal refuge from the unpleasantness of the day. LOL

Ah well, as I often say, we create many of our own monsters in life. Have a great day my friend and I'll see ya around on the Vine.

As a bi man, I suspect bisexuality exists. I also believe that people's psycho-sexuality changes with age, opportunity, and wisdom. Things that were horribly taboo at 20 are now merely titillating at 42. Experience, confidence, and being comfortable with oneself makes things look different.